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aray07 2 days ago [-]
Yeah this is a bit crazy and not surprising at all.
The limits have always been opaque and you never know when they change.
I started building an open-source local proxy that logs every rate-limit header Claude Code sends.
I am using it to track and get a better sense of the 5h and 7d weekly limits.
Some initial data from 11 observed 5h sessions on Max 20x:
- 5h budget: roughly $120–$280 per window
- 7d budget: roughly $1,300–$1,900
- Separate Sonnet-only 7d budget at ~$150
- 95% of tokens are cache reads. They barely move the meter.
It’s open source so more people can run it and we can figure out the real numbers.
Subscription business models have become a new art form thanks to Anthropic
nsingh2 2 days ago [-]
This morning I hit 100% 5hr usage on a task that took ~10% in the past. Looks like they are still testing the limits, but it seems over-tuned to me.
Also not great that they communicate this now, since people have been complaining about sudden and strange usage spikes for a few days with no response from Anthropic.
replwoacause 1 hours ago [-]
I keep saying it because it’s true: I do an insane amount of work with my little $20/mo. ChatGPT Plus subscription and never hit limits. For me Claude (especially Opus) is not built for real work, no matter how good the model may be, because the limits are comically prohibitive. Which is a shame because I love their models, but their shadiness around usage is bad business.
sunaookami 2 days ago [-]
And they don't announce it through any official communications but hope it gets buried on Twitter.
nickvec 2 days ago [-]
Yeah, extremely shady. They also made the change a few days ago silently hoping no one would notice presumably... pretty disappointed in Anthropic.
sunaookami 2 days ago [-]
Plus they are currently running a 2x usage promo outside of peak hours so many won't probably notice until it's over.
bayarearefugee 2 days ago [-]
Similar to what google recently pulled with Antigravity limits.
I guess we may be on the cusp of seeing how much AI usage is really going to cost us when demand goes up and the subsidies disappear.
jamiemallers 20 hours ago [-]
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nickvec 2 days ago [-]
Is this legal for Anthropic to do? The whole thing screams fraud / rug pull.
dimava 20 hours ago [-]
The amount of compute you get is not documented anywhere.
Cursor docs do say "You get $70 of api priced tokens on $60 tier"
Anthropic limits were 8.33x with free cached tokens, but those numbers themselves were a leak rather then an official statement
pu_pe 1 days ago [-]
It's crazy to me that this is not considered fraud. You sign up for a yearly plan under a given assumption of functionality, then they just change the terms to give you less than what they agreed to without compensating you in any way. That's textbook fraud.
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p0w3n3d 2 days ago [-]
Like electric cars. It's nice to charge it in summer 2013 when you're the only one on supercharger, and pain waiting in a pissing queue of 10 cars right now
jauntywundrkind 2 days ago [-]
One of the shadiest things I've seen is how openai treats their weekly limit. They reset it whenever they want! So if you use 25% but then it's day 3 or day 4 of the week, you've used less than the pro-rata, they'll just reset the limit.
Makes me incandescent that OpenAI would have these different rate limits that apply to you, but they can do whatever they want with your limit. It's just incredibly hostile treatment & incredibly incredibly rude.
rurban 1 days ago [-]
Really? So far I never reached codex limits, but every single day my Claude limits. And quality-wise codex is beating Claude already
jauntywundrkind 14 hours ago [-]
I'm on a plus plan, not max. I probably would go through around 3 maybe 4 plus plans a week; I use glm-5 pro plan (from before they added weekly limits) a lot more.
replwoacause 1 hours ago [-]
I’m on the Plus plan too and never run into limit issues. It’s one of the main reasons I stay subscribed because I feel I get my moneys worth. I love Claude models but usually feel cheated after not using them (especially Opus) for very long before I’ve hit a limit and they’re bilking me for more.
bazhand 17 hours ago [-]
and now /fast will get you moving quicker but at a premium.
misnome 23 hours ago [-]
Also, these “peak hours” are different from the “2x outside peak hours” hours.
Super shady and opaque. And this is just the start of the enshittification slope…
zer00eyz 1 days ago [-]
Next up:
Spend 1.99 and get a chest full of Anthropic emeralds, that you can redemem for Claude Chests, and a chance at winning a million more tokens.
Or watch this 3 minute ad, for 1000 tokens.
I did not think this day would come this soon, but I assure you that anthropic has no moat.
tibbydudeza 2 days ago [-]
Running out of compute and the subscriptions are not covering the costs.
The limits have always been opaque and you never know when they change.
I started building an open-source local proxy that logs every rate-limit header Claude Code sends.
I am using it to track and get a better sense of the 5h and 7d weekly limits.
Some initial data from 11 observed 5h sessions on Max 20x: - 5h budget: roughly $120–$280 per window - 7d budget: roughly $1,300–$1,900 - Separate Sonnet-only 7d budget at ~$150 - 95% of tokens are cache reads. They barely move the meter.
It’s open source so more people can run it and we can figure out the real numbers.
https://github.com/abhishekray07/claude-meter
Also not great that they communicate this now, since people have been complaining about sudden and strange usage spikes for a few days with no response from Anthropic.
I guess we may be on the cusp of seeing how much AI usage is really going to cost us when demand goes up and the subsidies disappear.
Cursor docs do say "You get $70 of api priced tokens on $60 tier"
Anthropic limits were 8.33x with free cached tokens, but those numbers themselves were a leak rather then an official statement
Makes me incandescent that OpenAI would have these different rate limits that apply to you, but they can do whatever they want with your limit. It's just incredibly hostile treatment & incredibly incredibly rude.
Super shady and opaque. And this is just the start of the enshittification slope…
Spend 1.99 and get a chest full of Anthropic emeralds, that you can redemem for Claude Chests, and a chance at winning a million more tokens.
Or watch this 3 minute ad, for 1000 tokens.
I did not think this day would come this soon, but I assure you that anthropic has no moat.