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embedding-shape 3 hours ago [-]
> We found that the model's modulation weights (~40% of the total parameters) could be pruned and replaced with a functionally equivalent lookup table, dramatically shrinking the memory footprint with no loss in output quality.
Is this a common approach to reducing weights with "no loss in output quality", assuming this is true? Seems almost too simple to work. If this is doable, would this be applicable to LLMs as well?
Neat with native frame-to-frame generation, but wonder how easy it is to "link" together clips at the intersection, typically the models kind of lose the "momentum" across these stiches, being able to merge things with frame-to-frame between clips might help with this it feels like.
liuliu 33 minutes ago [-]
It is a well-known trick, given that the timestep is between 0 to 1, you can slicing them at any resolution (1000, or 10000, give or take), and then keep a look-up table for modulation scale / bias etc for each. It is quite different from quantization and it is indeed lossless.
It is also only applicable to diffusion models as only these operates at per-timestep.
yorwba 3 hours ago [-]
"Modulation weights" here refers to weights used to adjust layer normalization depending on the task (adaLN). General-purpose LLMs generally don't have those in the first place.
_diyar 3 hours ago [-]
Also begs the question whether this is applicable for high-throughput applications on FPGAs, which are to my novice mind basically LUTs, right?
I remember a paper which was posted on HN a few weeks ago where somebody implemented KAN networks in FPGAs, since those can readily be approximated as LUTs.
knicholes 2 hours ago [-]
Whoah, could this mean we can treat layers like a jpg, where we come up with a formula that estimates the weight values of a layer instead of storing all of the weights?
swiftcoder 1 hours ago [-]
This is more or less what those lovely 1.5 bit quantisations are already doing
vblanco 3 hours ago [-]
Im running this on my 4070ti super (16 gb vram), and it takes 10 minutes for a 10-seconds 480p video. but the results are spectacular.
Maxious 3 hours ago [-]
FWIW on a 5080 16GB it takes 3 minutes for 10 seconds 480p video (the mouse video workflow with length changed from 5 seconds to 10 seconds)
embedding-shape 3 hours ago [-]
FWIW on a 6000 Pro it takes 68 seconds for 10 seconds 480p video, (cold) same demo workflow as you used. Set "megapixels" to 2.0 (1920x1088) and same video seems to take 5+ minutes, not sure if everything is right/correct at the moment.
As far as I can tell, the current ComfyUI nodes don't even do compilation, and I haven't looked into what attention mechanism they're using, but I'm sure with time these durations will come down even more.
pkroll 2 hours ago [-]
People on reddit have definitely pointed out that sageattention will speed up the renders.
And it's literally the first day. Someone will make a distilled 4-8 step LoRA and we're off to the races.
Edit: did a couple of 10 second long 864/480 i2v videos on my RTX Pro 6000: sageattention bumps them up 33%, that is to say, 140.89 seconds without sageattention becomes 105.69 with sageattention on (if using the KJ Sageattention node, "allow_compile" doesn't seem to affect it, just "sage_attention" set to "auto" works fine).
EasyCache also appears to work, but does affect quality, at least with the default threshold or even down to 0.10. Still, at 0.10 threshold the same render above, with sageattention, is down to 71.33 seconds, so depending on your use case the quality hit might be worth it. Also it seems that with EasyCache the video still matches the un-EasyCached video (with the same seed), so you could use it to do seed hunting.
ddevnyc 3 hours ago [-]
I am particularly curious how multimodal models will work with types of knowledge that are inherently non-text. For example, SOTA LLMs really suck at electronics, especially analog electronics.
Is MiniMax H3 capable of logical / technical reasoning, or is it purely art oriented?
jononor 3 hours ago [-]
Suck at what aspect of (analog) electronics specifically? Not contradicting the claim, just want to understand it.
I have not tested yet, but I suspect that LLMs with a harness that can execute code can do SPICE simulations rather ok these days? I have seen MCPs for measurement equipment also, maybe they can even close the physical loop?
ddevnyc 13 minutes ago [-]
spice is a very bad simulation. it's not like a unit test or a VM. it works very differently to the real thing, only approximating it in some highly controlled situations.
embedding-shape 3 hours ago [-]
> work with types of knowledge that are inherently non-text
What are those things exactly? AFAIK, everything we can "know" can be written down, one way or another, even analog circuits.
Also, what SOTA LLMs are you referring to? GPTs been handling analog circuits fine for quite some time, I want to say for at least one year? I've been "pair programming" a bunch of working circuits with GPT models since probably GPT 5 or so.
ddevnyc 10 minutes ago [-]
> AFAIK, everything we can "know" can be written down, one way or another, even analog circuits.
writing down circuit diagrams is like cooking about music.
> what SOTA LLMs are you referring to?
I have done a survey among analog electronics designers just a couple weeks ago and they all said that their forays into LLMs were great for digital electronics, code, and firmware, but for analog they were pretty terrible, with a variety of LLMs, according to everyone.
chpatrick 3 hours ago [-]
I've had great results on electronics with Claude and Gemini.
ddevnyc 10 minutes ago [-]
what sorts of things have you designed with it?
echelon 3 hours ago [-]
They can be used to create synthetic training data for robotics. It's not the best approach, though.
ddevnyc 9 minutes ago [-]
i bet they're good for it. however robotics aren't electronics. that's a completely different space.
mwigdahl 3 hours ago [-]
If you wouldn't mind sharing, what's your Comfy workflow for this? I have the same video card setup and would like to give it a shot.
vblanco 3 hours ago [-]
just the default one in the link for image-to-video
robbru 3 hours ago [-]
1 minute for a second of footage, that is awesome! Thanks for sharing.
chrsw 2 hours ago [-]
Huh, interesting. I tried to generate a 10 second 1080p clip on a bigger machine and the results were quite poor. Unusable for anything, in fact.
384028345 3 hours ago [-]
How much RAM does your machine have?
Mashimo 3 hours ago [-]
> The result gives a total memory footprint reduced by 66%, from 123.6 GB in full precision to 42.5 GB with the smallest models variants. Combining this with our dynamic VRAM offloading enables a next-generation 2K video model to run locally on a GPU like the RTX 3060.
Pretty cool.
But assuming you have a 16GB 3060, how long would it take to generate a 15 second clip?
sheesdev 3 hours ago [-]
The mouse render is surprisingly good. Several of those clips stood out to be a pretty big leap in terms of current SOTA models.
The only one that looks "off" is the beverage ad video during the can opening clip, it still has that "AI smoothening" effect. Good thing this can be done pretty well using traditional rendering.
I feel like for a good while now we'll transition into a process that uses traditional "close-up" rendering/shots + AI generated wide-shots or quick cuts.
Exciting, but also troubling. This being open-weights is a massive win for the community though.
echelon 3 hours ago [-]
This is still about a year and a half behind Seedance 2.0/ Seedance 2.5
But it represents a coming price pressure that will face the leading foundation models. Open source will prevent runaway costs.
Moreover, it prevents the hair-trigger platform safety checkers from shutting down creative work. Video models are notoriously bad at shutting down a huge number of requests.
Creatives will prefer to work on cloud or private GPU clusters. Waiting 10 minutes for a few seconds of 480p is unacceptable. Hobbyists will have fun, but most actual production work is happening in the cloud.
Artist's time is worth money, and they like to spin up dozens of concurrent generations at a time to more quickly explore the generation state space and make progress on completing work.
storus 1 hours ago [-]
Reference-to-video mode seems like all that was missing to enable completely independent cinematography as right now one couldn't stitch different scenes together properly without altering substantial portions of the scene.
fodkodrasz 3 hours ago [-]
On one hand: impressive.
On the other hands aesthetically it all looks painfully bland and generic.
_diyar 3 hours ago [-]
I agree. But is that the model or the prompt?
I remember reading a report where people running AI-model instagram account were using insanely long and detailed prompts about the setting, lighting, makeup, pose, disposition, clothing, etc. about their models. Presumably with some reference image of the face / body to remain consistent across images.
It‘s not clear to me whether a sufficiently detailed prompt can generate actually interesting video with a natural ”texture” (for lack of a better word).
razster 3 hours ago [-]
That would be the prompt. With the right assistance from Qwen3.5/Ornith I was able to achieve some amazing results. Unfortunately due to their licensing I'm not allowed to use it in the USA, so I had to halt testing.
iamcoder18 1 hours ago [-]
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fwip 2 hours ago [-]
I mean, even the demo prompts on the ComfyUI page aren't adhered to by the model. From the first prompt, one of the four lines:
> TRANSITION: a violent WHIP PAN off the rooftop that SMEARS the floating words away with it, motion-streaked —
And the video just didn't do any of that transition at all, it just replaced it with a cut. If you look at the rest of the prompts, you'll find similar lines that are just totally ignored. Except maybe the mouse one, I didn't see anything wrong with that off the bat.
SV_BubbleTime 3 hours ago [-]
This, today, is the absolute worse this model will ever be. Chill.
SV_BubbleTime 4 hours ago [-]
I saw the samples people have posted. Immediately deleted LTX2 and WAN folders. Those are completely worthless now.
There is some debate on the license for those in the US, UK, EU, plus… no comment other than whew those samples though!
Maxious 3 hours ago [-]
"Regions such as the EU, UK, South Korea, and the US are currently developing or enforcing AI-related regulations that may have specific implications for generative video models"
I do work animations for fun and internal use only (mostly jokes). I MAY reach out to them.
razster 3 hours ago [-]
Worth if you plan to use it for production use. If you use it for personal or as mockup, then what they don't know won't hurt them? ;)
satvikpendem 3 hours ago [-]
I've said it before and I'll say it again, human directors are still valuable, as they use AI video editing tools to generate the shots they want and put them together in a cohesive way. Previously they might've used film and actors but if they can just prompt the AI (or create workflows as seen with ComfyUI) then they arrange them together just like how an EDM producer doesn't actually play the instruments but instead the creativity is in the arrangement.
I suspect it'll be quite a while until AI gets a good enough aesthetic sense to do this, as even with static HTML websites humans can easily see that it's AI slop.
ilaksh 2 hours ago [-]
Seedance 2.5 just came out and it is incredible，significantly better than this for a lot of cases. This one is the latest _free_ video generator.
But as far as your composition tools, they are already available.
nfnmema 3 hours ago [-]
Any tutorial for me to learn how to use
hnlqpx99l9 3 hours ago [-]
Learned something, upvoted
rvz 4 hours ago [-]
Hollywood and the film industry on red alert. Too bad.
This is AGI.
trwhite 4 hours ago [-]
The example video just looks like the highly produced art (TV, commercials, games) other people have created. I find it impossible to believe this wasn't trained on other people's work, and there is no protection for it. Terribly sad. A lack of original thinking is coming.
echelon 3 hours ago [-]
> A lack of original thinking is coming.
As with the arts, 99.9% of people can't use these models to express vision, get attention, or achieve distribution.
The game is the same as it has always been. You still need hard work, taste, something important to say, the ability to articulate it, good timing, and luck.
Nothing has changed. We can just build faster.
What this does enable is for more to be created that caters to a wider variety of interests. It disrupts existing structures of capital allocation, production, and distribution and gives new players a chance to reshape the game.
The bar will rise and people will still be running at the same pace on the treadmill. There will be more to see, but less time to see it.
jackp96 1 hours ago [-]
Eh, the technical examples are impressive. But normal people really don't like AI. And I don't think that's going to improve if we really start to see job displacement.
I see a future here for digital advertising, for design mock-ups, for political propaganda, for robotics model training/world simulation, for fan movies, etc.
But the film industry is struggling to get eyeballs and butts in seats already; using a tool that most people inside-and-outside the industry loathe isn't the answer to fixing that.
At most, I could see it used for pre-viz/pre-production work in Hollywood.
MSFT_Edging 4 hours ago [-]
Can't wait for netflix to be topped on unimaginative nonsense meant to have in the background while you scroll your phone.
toasty228 3 hours ago [-]
Unlimited slop "content" to fill decomposed brain shaped vessels, the future is bright!
kyriakos 3 hours ago [-]
Unfortunately Hollywood been feeding us human generated slop for a long time already. Transition won't be hard.
Is this a common approach to reducing weights with "no loss in output quality", assuming this is true? Seems almost too simple to work. If this is doable, would this be applicable to LLMs as well?
Neat with native frame-to-frame generation, but wonder how easy it is to "link" together clips at the intersection, typically the models kind of lose the "momentum" across these stiches, being able to merge things with frame-to-frame between clips might help with this it feels like.
It is also only applicable to diffusion models as only these operates at per-timestep.
I remember a paper which was posted on HN a few weeks ago where somebody implemented KAN networks in FPGAs, since those can readily be approximated as LUTs.
As far as I can tell, the current ComfyUI nodes don't even do compilation, and I haven't looked into what attention mechanism they're using, but I'm sure with time these durations will come down even more.
And it's literally the first day. Someone will make a distilled 4-8 step LoRA and we're off to the races.
Edit: did a couple of 10 second long 864/480 i2v videos on my RTX Pro 6000: sageattention bumps them up 33%, that is to say, 140.89 seconds without sageattention becomes 105.69 with sageattention on (if using the KJ Sageattention node, "allow_compile" doesn't seem to affect it, just "sage_attention" set to "auto" works fine).
EasyCache also appears to work, but does affect quality, at least with the default threshold or even down to 0.10. Still, at 0.10 threshold the same render above, with sageattention, is down to 71.33 seconds, so depending on your use case the quality hit might be worth it. Also it seems that with EasyCache the video still matches the un-EasyCached video (with the same seed), so you could use it to do seed hunting.
Is MiniMax H3 capable of logical / technical reasoning, or is it purely art oriented?
I have not tested yet, but I suspect that LLMs with a harness that can execute code can do SPICE simulations rather ok these days? I have seen MCPs for measurement equipment also, maybe they can even close the physical loop?
What are those things exactly? AFAIK, everything we can "know" can be written down, one way or another, even analog circuits.
Also, what SOTA LLMs are you referring to? GPTs been handling analog circuits fine for quite some time, I want to say for at least one year? I've been "pair programming" a bunch of working circuits with GPT models since probably GPT 5 or so.
writing down circuit diagrams is like cooking about music.
> what SOTA LLMs are you referring to?
I have done a survey among analog electronics designers just a couple weeks ago and they all said that their forays into LLMs were great for digital electronics, code, and firmware, but for analog they were pretty terrible, with a variety of LLMs, according to everyone.
Pretty cool.
But assuming you have a 16GB 3060, how long would it take to generate a 15 second clip?
The only one that looks "off" is the beverage ad video during the can opening clip, it still has that "AI smoothening" effect. Good thing this can be done pretty well using traditional rendering.
I feel like for a good while now we'll transition into a process that uses traditional "close-up" rendering/shots + AI generated wide-shots or quick cuts.
Exciting, but also troubling. This being open-weights is a massive win for the community though.
But it represents a coming price pressure that will face the leading foundation models. Open source will prevent runaway costs.
Moreover, it prevents the hair-trigger platform safety checkers from shutting down creative work. Video models are notoriously bad at shutting down a huge number of requests.
Creatives will prefer to work on cloud or private GPU clusters. Waiting 10 minutes for a few seconds of 480p is unacceptable. Hobbyists will have fun, but most actual production work is happening in the cloud.
Artist's time is worth money, and they like to spin up dozens of concurrent generations at a time to more quickly explore the generation state space and make progress on completing work.
I remember reading a report where people running AI-model instagram account were using insanely long and detailed prompts about the setting, lighting, makeup, pose, disposition, clothing, etc. about their models. Presumably with some reference image of the face / body to remain consistent across images.
It‘s not clear to me whether a sufficiently detailed prompt can generate actually interesting video with a natural ”texture” (for lack of a better word).
> TRANSITION: a violent WHIP PAN off the rooftop that SMEARS the floating words away with it, motion-streaked —
And the video just didn't do any of that transition at all, it just replaced it with a cut. If you look at the rest of the prompts, you'll find similar lines that are just totally ignored. Except maybe the mouse one, I didn't see anything wrong with that off the bat.
There is some debate on the license for those in the US, UK, EU, plus… no comment other than whew those samples though!
You just have to pinkie promise you won't make disney mad and they will send you a licence https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3/blob/main/docs/Q...
I suspect it'll be quite a while until AI gets a good enough aesthetic sense to do this, as even with static HTML websites humans can easily see that it's AI slop.
But as far as your composition tools, they are already available.
This is AGI.
As with the arts, 99.9% of people can't use these models to express vision, get attention, or achieve distribution.
The game is the same as it has always been. You still need hard work, taste, something important to say, the ability to articulate it, good timing, and luck.
Nothing has changed. We can just build faster.
What this does enable is for more to be created that caters to a wider variety of interests. It disrupts existing structures of capital allocation, production, and distribution and gives new players a chance to reshape the game.
The bar will rise and people will still be running at the same pace on the treadmill. There will be more to see, but less time to see it.
I see a future here for digital advertising, for design mock-ups, for political propaganda, for robotics model training/world simulation, for fan movies, etc.
But the film industry is struggling to get eyeballs and butts in seats already; using a tool that most people inside-and-outside the industry loathe isn't the answer to fixing that.
At most, I could see it used for pre-viz/pre-production work in Hollywood.